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Organization Of Traditional Religions Of Africa (OTRA)

The majority of Africans, whacked out and divided by Islam and Christianity look upon African religious practices as inferior to the practices of the "foreign religions of the book". Folks, look at all of black Africa. Our continent and people have been regressing backward since Christianity and Islam showed up on our shores. We are a people addicted to foreign religious philosophies designed to keep us all stupid, destitute, and violent. A divided house soon falls to the reveling of its neighbors. A pity that we continue to justify our worth as humans by the same standards that continue to deviate us from the path of rectitude. I say on to you folks, we must have real dialogue to stop being architects of our own demise. For those of you that think that Africa's problem is corrupt leadership, I have news for you. It is not!

The problem with Africa today is us Africans. I am confident that you may think that I have just blasphemed. However, tough love is not a popularity contest. If we really want to see Africa change, then we must change our thinking. We must begin to look at ourselves in a more positive light, appreciate who we are, and what we are. Take Japan, for instance. There are two major religions in Japan, Buddhism and Shintoism. Both religions are culturally relevant. In Japan, the language spoken is Japanese, unlike Africa, where English, French, or Portuguese, etc., are the lingua franca, depending on who the colonial Culprit is. Textbooks are in Japanese, computer programs are in Japanese, etc. Also, keep in mind that Japan lost World War II, and was occupied by the United States. (This reminds me of the fella who wrote to this forum with claims that Christianity and Islam has done more good than harm to Africa. What a pity). Anyway, Japan rose from the ashes of the atomic bomb to dominate the world with computers, Toyotas, Lexus, Acura, and a majority of the worlds richest banks. In addition, they did it in just Fifty years. How did they do it? They are proud to be Japanese, and proud to be culturally original.

People, we as Africans need to face our issues head on, together, and without bitterness. We must really, take pride in things that are culturally inherent in our way of life. Pride in our spirituality and culture will set us on the right path to economic opulence, and we as Africans have too many irrelevant groups in our respective African countries, each claiming to represent the economic, political, and social interest of its people, too many kings, and few subjects. We can solve our problems if we work together.

The rest of the Western world and Christendom are not particularly interested in a stable Africa. The more strife we have within our borders, the easier it will be for our resources to be to plundered, both natural resources, and brain drain. Remember, united, we will stand. Divided, we shall continue to regress into this abyss of hopelessness that Africa finds itself in.

 

Yagazie,

Nchuaja (Rev.) Udee Kama Onyioha

High Chief Priest - Godianism

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To: igbo_forum@yahoogroups.com ; IgboOrgNYForum@yahoogroups.com ; net-nigeria@yahoogroups.com ; WorldIgboCongress@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: [IGBO_FORUM] Re: Kudos to Anielo, a real African - A repost

Anielo,

 

Need more be said? I must admit that your articulation of the Chiist frame of reference ranks amongst the best that I have ever read. Brother, you are the first person that I have read in any forum who actually understands the real history behind Nigeria's fight for independence, which was fought on two fronts, the political and spiritual fronts. I duff my hat to you. You are truly a great nwa Igbo and African.

 

I am also confident that in time, Africans with your understanding will eventually help with the fight for the emancipation of the African all over the world. I have no doubt in my mind that the answer to our demise back home in ala Igbo and Africa will be better served if we become "original thinkers", embrace our culture, and prove to the world that the African was the first human to give the world "conscience", and taught the world "right and wrong." Any true student of philosophy and religion will attest to this fact, and even the Jew will tell you that the concept of "right and wrong" originated in Africa.

 

We are beautiful people. We worshipped Chineke (God) thousands of years before the European and Arab came to our shores with the bible and Koran in tow to tell us that our system of supplication to Chineke was wrong, then took what was inherently African in our spirituality out, and supplanted it with theirs. For those in our fold who continue to embrace the foreign religions of the book, and who in turn with the rest of us are victims of a bastardized modern economic, spiritual, and political modernity, we will never overcome our handicap if we continue to run from our shadow, a feat which borders on "iinsanity." We have to learn to become original in every facet of our existence. Only in this way will we be able to gain the respect, which is a vital ingredient in the cauldron of prosperity, which we all thirst for.

 

My brothers and sisters in Chineke, I submit to you that no nation on the face of this earth is willing to deal with anyone as an equal who they perceive as inferior to their level of mental vibrations. As long as we continue to justify our self-worth by standards that are not of our own choosing, we will continue to be regarded as "equal to lower primates." I also submit to you that the ills of our communities in Africa will only get worse unless we re-evaluate our spiritual, political, cultural, and economic allegiances. I am of the opinion that our interest will be better served if we are smart enough to develop political and economic principles wound around the culture and traditions of the African, and Igbo man in particular. Other countries are doing it, so why not us?

 

Anielo, Your piece will become part of my permanent archive, of which I will post as a blog on the Godianism (Chiism) website next weekend when I do my website update.

Udo ga diri gi.  

Yagazie,  

Nchuaja (Rev.) Udee Kama Onyioha High Chief Priest - Chiism (Godianism)

http://www.godianism.org

 

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To: IgboOrgNYForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [IgboOrgNY Forum] Chike Okoye: Benedict vs Arinze


 
Anielo   I have read many unbelievable and culturally disparaging words against the whole concept of African spirituality and sometimes have elected not to join in the conversation.  It has gradually dawned on me that there has to be another forum that invites more research based arguments, not emotional and defensive ones. I realize that for many, religion is so sensitive an issue, even when the basis for the arguments are driven by sub conscious colonial mentality and misdirected allegiance to foreign cultural dictates. The sad reality is that the future generations of Africans who are being parented by these cohorts of biblical dogma will nurture the same sentiments. Africa will thus continues to be a fertile ground for unscrupulous religionists who claim the desire to save Africa's souls while assuring that Africa languishes in ruins. The spirituality that many in Africa practice is yet to teach us how to help ourselves from the myriad of problems that plague us. They are not designed to do so.  

Nchuaja Udee, has consistently raised the argument for the need for the re-evaluation of the spiritual contributions of the Africans before the introduction of revealed religions to the African mind.  Godianism (Chiism) is a system that deserves our evaluation through evaluation and research and aught not be discounted and ignored. Many of us who have read the bible and Koran did so to gain spiritual knowledge and having done so, have interpreted them for ourselves and find them to be tools for controlling women, justifying racism and creating fear.  

Many Africans  are now petrified that their souls shall be doomed to burn in biblical hell  and numbed by the  fear of negative Islamic ramifications. They will fight tooth and nail against their own, to protect the rights of the very people who continue to be the source of the rape of the African intellectual mind and wealth.   However, I was so heartened  that another voice has risen to speak up and raise the voice of reason. Please allow me the opportunity to congratulate you and Udee on your very thought provoking and analytical evaluations of what it means to be a seeker of spiritual truth via the channels set forth by our own ancestors." agu anaghi amu Okpu", which means that "the Lion never gives birth to a lamb."  I see that the lions are now roaming the Serengeti and not a moment too soon!  How totally satisfying it is to know that there are other sons of Africa ( and daughters, I am sure) willing to stand up,  to raise the flag of African spiritual dignity, speak for those who choose to remain silent and even those who have been convinced that African spirituality is irrelevant.

I am so totally proud of you two and all the other few voices who speak up occasionally in this forum. I see that there is hope yet to be salvaged from all the noise. You must not back down. The cost of silence is too great.  

Yagazie!  

Ogele

 

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From: tony egbe
To: igbo igbo ; igbo orgny Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [IGBO_FORUM] Mz. Anielo & Mz. Udee ON LESSONS OF LIFE FOR ALL !!!!

 
"What shocks me is that these people are extremely intellegent and well educated.
Some are lawyers, philosophers, doctors, engineer! s etc. This people can intellegently.."...Mz. Anielo.

Prof. Anielo,

Thanks for your lecture below. You deserve all the Academic titles these so called "Educated" Beings parade falsely. However, Point of Correction; these Beings you said to be educated, are NOT really Educated in the real sense of the word. At best, they have accumulations of academic certificates which do not equate to being educated.

As for Mz. Nchuaja (Rev) Udee Onyioha; I have this for your Point of Direction: Please, can you, of this "Gordianism," Drop the name, and Replace it with "CHINEKISM" or some kind of African Name to Completely and Trully make this Movement more Original African rooted Religious movement??

As for the rest of us, who are still wallowing in Religious Ignorance, when our Morning breaks, and we grow up, we will have No Problem understanding Nchuaja Udee Onyioha; my ONLY Concern, though, is probably by then, Udee may be too far away for more Questions & Answers; just like Lobsang Rampa.

Otoiheoma Egbe.

<Dr. Anielo> wrote:

 

I learned about Godianism from my elementary school teacher in 1964. Godianism was started back then.


Zik, according to my teacher, was a leading member. Other prominent politicians from eastern Nigeria were members. Other leaders of Africa that time, Nkrumah, Nyerere, Jomo Kenyata and others were serious about the newly formed religion.
 
It was meant to be the modern religion of Africa. Its goal was to stop the spiritual invasion and brainwashing of Africa by foreign religions groups and colonial masters---Christianity, Islam etc. The reason it is not the prevailing religion in Africa today is because:
 
(1) Nigeria-Biafra war interrupted its spread (since Zik was one of the big founders).
 
(2) Most of the founders were over thrown from power (Nkrumah for example) and could not do anything further.
 
(3) Millitary coup(backed by the west) was spreading fast through out Africa and the remaining founders could not convince the new millitary leaders to join the crusade since preserving African spirit and values was not their reason for coming to power.
 
(4) Most Africans then were illitrates and therefore did not understand what our educated leaders were trying to do for us spiritually.
 
My Brother Cos, that is how Godianism died until now. It was meant to establish our spiritual identity in the world and preserve Africa's values. You see, every part
of the world practice their own traditional religion except Africa.

Middle East has Islam, India has Hindu, China has Confucious and Budha, Japan(which was originally China) has Budha, Israel has Judaism, Europe has Christianity (which they shoved down our throat and destroyed our own using
brainwashing) and so on.
 
Africa has none. Africa became the religious dumping ground for anyone who has any belief to preach.
 
People attack Udee here as if he committed a capital crime. They don't understand
what is at stake. Some of us are ashamed of our African names. I met one guy from Cameroun who, on his arrival, changed his name to Oscar. I asked him why, he told me that he changed it because Americans could not pronounce his African name.
 
I explained to him that when Europeans came to Africa, we could not pronounce their names either. The Europeans knew that fact but they did not change or modify their names for our convenience. They insisted we call them their names no matter how difficult they are for us.

Why do we Africans always modify our normal ways of ! life to suite the convenience of other none-Africans who would not do the same for us? I call that "INFERIORITY COMPLEX"
 
We had been brainwashed to feel inferior to other people of the world and we the
educated ones are not doing anything to change that. When one of us comes out and tries to do something about it, we attack him, make fun of him, call him names
and see him as strange, crazy, eccentric or even devil.
 
This had been happening to Udee in this forum since he mentioned "Godianism or
Chiism". Christian fanatics here want to eat him alife. Everyone in the name of Christianity, wants Udee dead, shot or hung because he has the courage to resist
spiritual and religious destruction of Africa. But the same people shouting "death to
Udee !!" will accept anything their pastor or Rev. Father tells him without question. They don't even see the politics in religion. Everything Christian is good and holly while spiritual things from Africa is from Satan.

What shocks me is that these people are extremely intelligent and well educated.
Some are lawyers, philosophers, doctors, engineer! s etc. This people can intelligently debate any topic on earth. But when it comes to religion, they become children and absolutely rely on whatever their pastor or Rev. father tells them regardless of the
validity.

In Christianity, Jesus said that every sin is forgiveable except the "Blasphemy against the Holly Spirit". And what is "Blasphemy" in christianity? Blasphemy is "questioning in any way or form the teaching of Christ". Because of this statement, Christians will prefer to be shot than ask if what is said in the bible is true or false.

This "Blasphemy statement" was the tool Jesus used to shut the mouth of anyone who
will question if he was telling the truth or just deceiving the people. Jesus used it to protect his religion from intellectual attacks and it worked.

That is why till today, any time you try to debate if what is in the bible is true or not,
Christians will label you Satan and leave the room. They don't want to blaspheme and go to hell when they die, since blasphemy is unforgivable. The same Christians will be quick to desecrate other people's religion. Watch how Christians talk about Muslims. They are free to discuss the ills of other religions but will NOT criticize their own even when you try to show them some flaws and contradictions in their bible. Although every religion is guilty of this.
 
We seem to call everything "civilization". Rejection of your identity is NOT civilization. If you lose your identity, nothing is left of you. You are ! as good
as dead. It was of recent that we started wearing African clothes here in USA, Britain etc.

In the 1980's when I came here you would be regarded as a "circus clown"
 if you wear African clothes. It was some proud Africans who were filled with pride, courage and immune to ridicules who took it upon themselves to make our clothes popular and admirable attires that you see it today.
 
Why can't we be proud of where we came from and stop taking all these garbage
thrown to us from all parts of the world. Why do we copy other people? Why can't other people copy us.
 
Hiding behind Christianity as our excuse will not help. As long as we continue to be
ashamed of our heritage and feel inferior to other people, nobody will copy us."

 

Udo Dili Unu, Ndi Nwem
 
Dr. Anielo.

 

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Chike Okoye:

 

Chike, people like you are very dangerous to Africa's progress. You feel deeply inferior to anything foreign. I am quite surprised that you haven't changed your name Chike to "Chikeson(english), Chikeberg(german), Hernadez(spanish) or even better Habib Abdulah (Arabic)". You have been brainwashed to trash your very own culture and beliefs and take foreign ones, to avoid being called "primitive".

 

You spoke about forming your own church and folks like me were wondering whether it was because of faith, theological difference or a mere desire to be in charge....Chike Okoye

 

What is wrong with Udee Onyioha starting his own African religion? You said Udee Onyioha's reason for starting his own African religion is to be in charge. Well, you should ask Jesus the same question. When Jesus was born, the Jews already have a strong, thriving religion called "Judaism". Why did Jesus start Christianity? Why didn't him just settle with Judaism which is the religion of his mother Mary and father Joseph?. The answer is "TO BE IN CHARGE".

 

Secondly as a Christian, if one does not believe in the same GOD as I do, the person simply does not believe in (my) GOD - common sense.....Chike Okoye

 

Listen to yourself. What your are really saying here is that "your grandparents and ancestors who were never christians are in hell now since they didn't believe in your GOD".  This means that one will go to hell, even if he lived a good, holly life, because he did not believe in your GOD.

 

 

"You are a religous fanatic and dangerous.  I feel sorry for you. People like you commit atrocities in the name of his religion, just like abortion-clinic killers. People like you hate his own brother because he doesn't blong to your religion. Your likes believe that anything that is not in the bible is not true. People like you, in the name of religion, believes anything that came out of his pastor's mouth blindly without evaluation. People like you always explain the universe and life dynamics with your bible and never believe in science.

 

Traditional is not necessarily old ways but merely a way of life. Igbos today are traditionally Christians, chew that.....Chike Okoye

Please, speek for yourself. Who made you Igbo spokesman? This your religion had definitely gone to your head. You need serious medical treatement or out-patient medication. You are very sick. You need an intensive religious deprogramming to guarantee your cure. Do you really know the meaning of the word "Traditional"?

 

You are a christian but you know nothing about the history of Christianity you belong to. Christianity was rejected by Jews, Jesus' own people. They rejected Jesus too and killed him. The same religion that was rejected by Jesus' own people is what you  accepted blindly without question and trash you own simply to avoid being called "primitive". Have ever wondered why the Jews rejected him and his new religion.

 

When Mohammed started Islam, he was rejected and driven out of Mecca. He converted a few people, raised an army and invaded Mecca. He then, with force, imposed his belief (Islam) on his people.

 

Before you soak yourself deep into these foreign things that you crave for, please know the history of what you are dealing with.

 

Religion was a tool used by colonial masters to conquer Africa. It was never given to you to save your soul as they claimed. If you don't believe, check out their methods.

 

They attacked your culture and religion first to prepare you for their brainwashing (programming). Then, they labeled your culture "primitive" and called your religion "paganism, the work of the devil". Now that you are empty, it is time to replace what they took out of you with their own culture and religion. They changed your name, baptised you with their names such as Joseph, John, Peter etc.

 

They would not baptise you with your African name because their goal is to erase who you really are and replace it with what they want you to be. They taught you that your African names is pagan or represents devil or relates to devil. You never ask them the meaning of Joseph, David, Tyler, Brian, Rodney, Jesse, Patrick or how these names relate to God or "holly or sacred". According to your bible, Peter means "stone".

 

Peter is an ancient hebrew word meaning "stone". So, before Jesus was born, peter means "stone" and after Jesus' death peter still means "stone" in hebrew language. Now, tell me how "stone" relate to God, holly or sacred. They will NOT baptise you with "Afamefula, Ogbonna, Jideofo or Ibekwe" but they can give you "stone" and you happily accept. You go around bragging about it, "I am a Christian. Virgin Mary is my holly mother".

 

They told you not to worship inanimate objects but they turn around and give you the statue of Joseph, Virgin Mary, St. Matthew, St. Anthony etc. to put in your living room/palour. They give you a medal of one the saints (St. Christopher to protect you from accidents) to wear around your neck which you consider yourself very lucky to have. My question is "Are these statues and medals not objects?"

 

Further, you are instructed (when you are having life problems) never to invoke the spirit of your dead mother, father, uncle and relatives for help. The reason being that the spirits of your dead relative should not be worshipped. Then, they tell you that it is okey to invoke the spirit of Mary, Joseph or any of the saints for help whenever you are having problem in your life.

 

Now, let me ask you this, "Which of these spirits is likely to help you in your time of need? Your mother, father and relatives who bore, raised and taught you everything you know today or Virgin Mary, Joseph, St. Patrick, St. Agnes who never knew you exist?" 


<Chike Okoye>wrote:

Udee Onyioha:

I have become an 'efulefu' because I think you do not believe in GOD? Come on bro, add some credibility to your gibberish.

 

You spoke about forming your own church and folks like me were wondering whether it was because of faith, theological difference or a mere desire to be in charge. It sounded (to me) like the latter which seems as if you do not believe in GOD. Secondly as a Christian, if one does not believe in the same GOD as I do, the person simply does not believe in (my) GOD - common sense.

 

Traditional is not necessarily old ways but merely a way of life. Igbos today are traditionally Christians, chew that.

 

Thanks,

 

Chike Okoye

 

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Udee, Stan Odera sounded like the stranger to a funeral who is weeping harder than the bereaved and in the process beaconing to everyone within sight to cry their eyes out. He is a lost cause. he does not know where hi Chi resides.
  Mazi Vincent C. Unachukwu

 

----- Original Message ----- To: WorldIgboCongress@yahoogroups.com ; net-nigeria@yahoogroups.com ; IgboOrgNYForum@yahoogroups.com ; igbo_forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: [IgboOrgNY Forum] [IGBO_FORUM] Save Christianity -read and sign.

Of all the problems that Africans and nde Igbo face in this world, it is laughable that Africans, especially nde Igbo should be concerned about the bastardization of a hero of the foreign religions of the book in a movie, especially, since such defense of a foreign doctrine is coming from an African in Diaspora whose objective is to keep the movie from being shown in American theaters. Are you kidding me? Geez! Have we as nde Igbo stooped so low that we are now using this forum to voice objections to issues that are irrelevant to our upward mobility or opulence, particularly when such issues are not culturally, politically, economically, and socially relevant.

 

What relevance is this outrage in relation to the demise of the African in a world that has demonstrated that it does not give a damn about the welfare of the African? Why should an African sign a petition to boycott the showing of a movie dealing with a foreign religious hero, while remaining silent as her way of life is being ridiculed, bastardized, and dismissed as spiritual and religious evil by people who have refused to understand her, and particularly by some of her own sons and daughters. Perhaps that such outrage should also be applied to Islam, if there happens to be a movie portraying Mohammed as a power grabbing, fornicating, and homosexual tyrant whose thirst for blood was insatiable. It will be interesting to watch Africans sign petitions and take to the streets in defense of an Arab religious hero whose influence has contributed to the backwardness of African adherents.

 

What is it going to take to defend our culture, traditions, and spirituality with the same fervor since these have relevance in our quest for solutions to problems in our communities that continue to stagnate us as Africans? I am yet to read on this forum, a paper contributed by a patron in defense of African traditions as it relates to real solutions to our demise. We seem to spend our energy on the same doctrines that has kept us in metal servitude to colonial influence for centuries.

 

This petition is indefensible, and an outrage. Umu Igbo, we must dare to be culturally original. Therein lies the answer to our true emancipation.

 

Yagazie,

 

Nchuaja (Rev.) Udee Kama Onyioha

High Chief Priest - Godianism

http://www.godianism.org

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From: STAN ODERA
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:12 AM
Subject: [IGBO_FORUM] Save Christianity -read and sign
 

Dear all,


A disgusting film is set to appear in America later this year which depicts Jesus and his disciples as homosexuals. As a play, this has already been In theaters for a while. It's called "Corpus Christi" which means "The Christ Body." It's a revolting mockery of our Lord. But we can make a difference. That's why I am sending this e-mail to you all. Will you please add your name to the bottom of the list at the end of this e-mail? If you do, we will be
able to prevent this film from showing in America. Apparently, some regions in Europe have already banned the film. All we need is a lot of signatures!
 

Remember, Jesus said, "Deny me on earth and I'll deny you before my
Father". Please don't just forward it!! Please copy this message "Ctrl C"! Paste the text in a new e-mail "Ctrl V", then add your name to the list and send it to all your friends. When the list you sign reaches 500 names, please send it
to:mailto:homasg%40softhome.net. And then start again ........IF WE WORK TOGETHER WE
CAN DO THIS. Thank You!

289.Mazi Stanley Odera -Guangzhou China

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FOLKS, THE DISCUSSION REALLY GETS FUNNIER, AND SOMETIMES  REALLY SERIOUS, AS OUR BELOVED AFRICAN BROTHERS TRY TO OUT DUEL EACH OTHER. READ ON.

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ONCE UPON A TIME ON AN INTERNET FORUM - 2004

 

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From: tony

To: igbo_forum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 4:16 PM

Subject: Re: [IGBO_FORUM] THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO...HHMM. -a repost

 

"This phenomenon of "juju' for wealth is the result of the moral decay associated with capitalism that is now being abused to the point of nausea in Igbo land, Nigeria and all over black Africa. No longer is a person's worth measured by positive contributions to his or her community, or the ability to nurture a cohesive family whose offspring become upright members of society. But rather emphasis is now placed on one's ability to build a mansion surrounded by thirty feet walls ....and,  (I might add; Fake degrees & Chieftancy titles)... in wealth that was acquired by dubious means,...... The most disturbing thing about the practice of "juju" for wealth is that there is no proof whatsoever that hacking off a human head, or separating gonads or breasts from someone as ingredients in a cauldron of witchery makes anyone rich...! ....What a pity."....Mz. Udee Kama Onyioha.

 

Mz. Kama Onyioha,

 

This piece was very well written, with all amount of honesty and brilliance. Thanks for the analysis. I have underlined some particular areas in the piece, which EXPOSES a lot of ignorance on the part of those who carry on in this fashion.

 

It is REALLY  a pity, that emphasis on what matters MOST, in the life of human beings, I mean our people, has been replaced with Naira! and more Naira!!, at all cost, and by all means. The pursuit of education in Igbo-Land has been thrown into River Niger. It is now, by all means, acquire the Naira, even if one dies in its pursuit, it is still okay!!! In less than twenty years from now, two thirds of Igbo males will be illitrates. Most of our kids, also, in the diaspora, may not move to live in Nigeria. Again, well written. Tony Otoiheoma Egbe.

 
Udee Onyioha <udeeonyioha@yahoo.com> wrote:

Brethren,

May every way of your life be light.

May all your works be crowned with good.

And may Africa begin to prosper once again due  to your better understanding of the role that culture plays in the upward mobility of a people, Ise..Yagazie..Ofo.

While reading some of the eloquent, and also some of the ignorant discussions of the problems with Nigeria, nde Igbo, etc., and solutions suggested by some patrons of these forums, I began to realize that we really do not have an understanding of the reasons why we are so screwed up. This problem filters into every African community both at home and in diaspora. What is it in our psyche that is responsible for our lack of insight and understanding of problems in our communities that continue to keep us in servitude to our former colonial masters? One can even argue that we are still being colonized. The only difference from pre-colonial and post-colonial times is that the shackles of slavery were removed from our limbs, and places in our brains, zombies of sought, who forever take their cue from their masters.

 

This mind-bending reality is responsible for the sudden epiphany that I experienced regarding our destiny as a people, and where we end up when history is written about the African's ability for self-determination.  One epiphany really stands out and begs for discussion in the hopes of educating Africans on the difference between African social and economic behavior before colonization, and it's subsequent corruption due to the westernization of our thinking in relation to how some people attempt to acquire wealth in Igbo land, Nigeria, and black Africa today. I will not dwell on the obvious corruption that pervades the ranks in government and business. Rather, I will attempt to answer a few questions that beg for our attention. Firstly, "Is using "juju" to acquire wealth a deficiency in African moral culture, or is it a product of western economic principles?" Secondly, "was using "juju" for wealth a common practice amongst Africans before the Europeans came to our shores and introduced their economic system to Africa, notably, capitalism." Things that make you go hhmm…Eh!

 

Using "Juju" as a tool to acquire wealth

 

According to Robert Fatton, Jr. (Africa in the new millennium, 1999), "The persisting attraction of popular traditions reflects people's attempts to cope with the vicissitudes of historical change and the material deprivations of daily existence. Rather than being an instrument of resistance and revolutionary transformation, cultural traditions are a means of dealing with the devastation brought about by failed projects of progress. The enduring vitality of traditions represents a source of self-affirmation and moral anger with which to condemn the evil world created by the intersection of global political economy with local culture and rituals.

 

The presence of the past, however, does not entail fixed and frozen traditions; on the contrary, it implies a sense of continuity, which is always affecting and affected by a changing present. This is the domain of “invented traditions,” where people, in search of the material and moral resources with which to defend their current interests, turn back to yesterday's rules and cosmology with the tools of today (Hobsbawm and Ranger, 1983). Such return to the roots symbolizes peoples' logical answer to the uncertainties of a bastardized capitalist modernity."

 

In essence, the use of "juju" in Igbo land, Nigeria, and black Africa in general is the result of "a bastardized capitalistic modernity" introduced by Europeans whose modus operandi is take what is theirs, and supplant it with yours. In an attempt to defend their current interest, some Africans have now "invented traditions' like using "juju" for acquiring wealth, and have sold this idea to a gullible populace struggling with declining economic options in their continuing struggle to achieve one of Manslow’s hierarchy of needs, the basic need for food, shelter, and clothing. Some "juju" for wealth practitioners have even gone one step beyond basic physiological needs to emphasize sizable wealth by any means necessary, and have in this process given a black eye to African traditional behavior. We now have Africans with myopic understanding of why the phenomenon of "juju" for wealth has become a common practice amongst renegade Africans with visions of economic grandeur who now threaten the cultural moral absolutes that once bound our African societies together, and kept us on the path of rectitude for generations.

 

This phenomenon of "juju' for wealth is the result of the moral decay associated with capitalism that is now being abused to the point of nausea in Igbo land, Nigeria and all over black Africa. No longer is a person's worth measured by positive contributions to his or her community, or the ability to nurture a cohesive family whose offspring become upright members of society. But rather emphasis is now placed on one's ability to build a mansion surrounded by thirty feet walls to keep out the riff-raff and armed rubbers determined to participate in wealth that was acquired by dubious means, which may or may not have involved human sacrifice. And of course, a man's ability to attract young girls desperately seeking to empty a person’s wallet also helps to sweeten the pot for most African men. The most disturbing thing about the practice of "juju" for wealth is that there is no proof whatsoever that hacking off a human head, or separating gonads or breasts from someone as ingredients in a cauldron of witchery makes anyone rich. If you jump out of a plane without a parachute at ten thousand feet above sea level, do you think that you will survive based on your belief in God? If you make "juju" for wealth without a sound business plan, you will fail. The desperation of some Africans to defend their interest has made them fall prey to con men without conscience who will kill or maim another human to make money. What a pity.

 

Wealth in pre-colonial times

 

Most traditional lineages in Africa had a "family pot", which was a general welfare fund managed by the head of the extended family. Members of the family who earned income had an obligation to contribute to this fund, and the size of the contribution varied from family to family and from tribe to tribe. Usually, the contributions are made on the ability of the families to pay into this fund, and may or may not be voluntary. However, failure to contribute to this fund was often interpreted as abandonment of a person's family, and serious offense. Retribution may require that the transgressor forfeit his or her inheritance rights. Contributions to cover past arrears in payments may be made to atone for the lapse in making regular contributions to the family pot.

 

In most African communities, the process was the same, and these contributions were used for a variety of purposes, which include providing startup capital for business of trade, funeral expenses, improvement of family land, construction of new dwellings, etc. The extended family and village or clan assumed responsibility for all social or economic services for their members, and communal obligations necessary for mutual support. Being contributors to the pot allowed people to satisfy their social and economic needs. This allowed people to flourish, and nobody could be labeled poor because, people usually share what they have. There were no insecurities, competition, unemployment, yearning to become very rich, thus creating a healthy mental environment. However, this does not mean that Africans did not accumulate wealth.

 

Africans accumulated wealth just as other people did in other societies, and the difference in wealth were recognized. In Igbo land, this difference was recognized in age, status, wealth, religion, birth, and decent. The Hausa recognized wealth difference by the size of the productive family unit composed of a father, and his married sons that contain many more subunits than others do. The larger the family subunits, the larger the farm land that could be cultivated to yield more crops. The Masai in Kenya and Zulus of South Africa counted their wealth in cattle. The cow gave the owner prestige in the community. Much of the wealth in indigenous Africa was of the social type, and cattle in some African communities performed a social function, not economic. I could go on and on with examples of the social function that accumulation of wealth represented in Africa before colonial times, but I think that you get the gist.

 

Today, these values have been bastardized by the introduction of western capitalist economy into Africa. The core values that kept African families and communities cohesive are now polluted by values that now stress the individual over communal responsibility. In pre-colonial times, people did not resort to "juju" to acquire wealth, since wealth merely performed a social function. Now, don't get me wrong. I recognized that if Africa is to compete in today's world economy, it has to keep its culture dynamic enough to meet the demands of today's markets, and satisfy the needs of African communities in the 21st century. However, dynamic culture is not the same as "invented traditions" like "juju" for wealth. Consequently, corruption in business and government plague Africa today due to our preference of European values, while deleting culturally relevant values from our psyche. So, for those of you that dismiss "juju" for wealth as an African superstition, or a flaw in African culture, think again. It is a con game, and a product of western civilization.

 

I remain your servant in Chineke.

 

Yagazie,

 

Nchuaja (Rev.) Udee Kama Onyioha

High Chief Priest -Godianism

 

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----- Original Message -----

 

From: "Udee Onyioha" <udeeonyioha@yahoo.com>

To: <net-nigeria@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:13 PM

Subject: Re: [nn] [IGBO_FORUM] Real solutions to the plight of nde Igbo in Nigeria

That was a better demeanor in your reply. I commend you.

I decided to become active in this forum to foster open communications and exchange of workable  ideas. At least, I hope that's why we have these discussions.
 
Your servant in Chineke.

Yagazie,

Nchuaja (Rev.) Udee Kama Onyioha


----- Original Message -----


From: "on mobile"
To: <net-nigeria@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nn] [IGBO_FORUM] Real solutions to the plight of nde Igbo in Nigeria


High as in what?

I can see that you do not incite violence at all. You do choose good words to converse with and discuss intelligently by asking relevant and good mannerly questions.

I am not high, I am tall though, if that is what you mean.

“...by the words of their mouth, we shall know them...”


-----Original Message-----


From: "Udee Onyioha" <udeeonyioha@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:27:53
To:<net-nigeria@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [nn] [IGBO_FORUM] Real solutions to the plight of nde Igbo in Nigeria

NWOKEM,

Nothing about my article insights violence. You must be from mars, or reading an article from pluto. This article calls for intellectual approach to the problems  facing nde Igbo.

Are you high?

Nchuaja


 ----- Original Message -----


From: "on mobile"
To: <net-nigeria@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nn] [IGBO_FORUM] Real solutions to the plight of nde Igbo in Nigeria


For a reverend of the Lord, you seem to have a lot of violence in you. You completely forgot the power of negotiation and the kind act of persuasion. Your article is more like an incitation to war.

Have you heard the phrase “...and the meek shall inherit the world...” I think you should try and find out more about the Lord you serve.

You need to pray for forgiveness. What is written here is tantamount to sin. The Igbos are proud people of Nigeria. They are proud, hardworking and loving Nigerians. It shall be like this reverend.


 -----Original Message-----


 From: "Udee Onyioha" <udeeonyioha@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:45:27
 To:<net-nigeria@yahoogroups.com>, <igbo_forum@yahoogroups.com>,
worldigbocongress@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [nn] [IGBO_FORUM] Real solutions to the plight of nde Igbo in
Nigeria

 

Ladies and gentlemen,

 

My name is Nchuaja (Rev.) Udee Kama Onyioha, and write this piece in the humblest manner that I know how in response to the chatter on this forum about the issues that face nde Igbo in Nigeria today. There has also been suggestions on how to go about solving these problems, including raising funds in defense of Ojukwu, taking up whole page ads in the newspapers abroad, and lobbying the international communities and governments to support secession ambitions of nde Igbo, and to condemn human rights abuses in Nigeria by the government of Olusegun Obasanjo, etc. All these noble undertakings and concerns. However, I am afraid that once again, we are depending too much on others to solve our problems, as opposed to finding solutions within ourselves, and our Igbo communities that address our concerns more appropriately.

 

The world, especially the United States and Great Britain are aware of the issues that face nde Igbo in Nigeria since the end of our civil war, and believe me, they are not about to look at our plight with any real sense of urgency, particularly since nde Igbo do not have any real economic or political power in Nigeria. Besides, if the truth be told, nde Igbo are not particularly united themselves to be able to effectively challenge the inequity that exist in Nigeria between nde Igbo and the rest of the country. This assertion may sound a bit harsh to some of you. However, we need to take another look at how we approach our problems in Nigeria, and perhaps we may become like the ant, whose survival is directly related to the success of the ant colony. In other words, we need to all learn a lesson from the ant.

 

Umu Igbo, in order to effectively address our problem in Nigeria, we must come to terms with the reality that there would have to be some sought of revolution in Nigeria, an uprising of sought. This revolution will either be in the form of physical confrontation, war, which I am afraid that our generation does not have the stomach for, or intellectual revolution, which seems more achievable, provided there is unison in reasoning among nde Igbo.

 

Intellectual revolution may be achieved in the following way. We need the rest of the country, and the international community to focus their attention on Igbo land in a positive manner. This will involve changing the way we think of ourselves, our culture and way of life, economics, and politics. What we need to do as nde Igbo is to begin a grass roots movement that promote our culture, spirituality, and traditional system of government and economics synthesized into a coherent form that meets the political, spiritual, and economic challenges and demands of the 21st century.  To achieve greatness and economic opulence and respect within Nigeria and the global community, nde Igbo must begin to present itself unified as being culturally original in the way we think. There is no doubt that communities that have influenced human civilization over the past centuries have either contributed to humanity in the areas of science and economics, or in the areas of philosophy and art. Igbo land can become a center of learning in these areas. It can become a place where the rest of the world will come to learn and awe in the richness of our culture. We can become the Mecca of West Africa, or even Africa, since no such intellectual or cultural center currently exists in all of Africa. Igbo land can become a place of pilgrimage for displaced Africans all over the world. It can become a place where Africans in diaspora, from the slaves of yester years, to the current brain drain African diasporians that are aimlessly wondering the globe, and asking themselves, "will I ever settle down in Igbo land ever again?” 

 

NOTE: Remember, it is  better to be a communal thinker, than a self aggrandizing buffoon who is more interested in self, than the upward mobility of the Igbo community. Endless monetary donations to a noble cause without a good operational strategy is like "whistling in the wind", and may have 419 overtones. Same old crap of gut spewing, over and over again, and no real results.

 

Now, there should be a systematic purging of the so-called mentality that someone else other than ourselves will help us solve our political and economic problems in Nigerian. Well, I have news for you. No one other than ourselves can solve our problems for us. We may pray to Chineke, and Chineke will tell you that you ought to be, master of your own destiny. Gi ge nti na ala, ga nu ikiti opka ndanda (If you listen closely with your ear to the ground, you will here the footsteps of ants). Solutions to our problems can only come from within. You may wish to petition President Bush, Prime minister Blair, or Collin Powel all you want, nothing will come of your petition. Stop! Stop it! Open your eyes to reality! Why do you think that anyone in the position of power in the United States, or Europe really shares our concern when we do not have real political or economic power in Nigeria? What's in it to them? These so called "saviors" can't even stop the genocide going on in Sudan, which has greater international notoriety as a crime against humanity, than Ojukwu's problems with the SSS, MASSOB, and/or WIC secession aspiration. At least, if the United States or Great Britain are able to help resolve the situation in Sudan, they will look angelic in the eyes of the international community; the white man has once again come to save the black African. Geeezz! The Sudanese people cannot even solve their own problems. Typical of the black African, don't you think?

 

It is like chasing ones shadow. Ever heard that? Listen folks, desperate situations require revolutionary ideas and solutions. We as Igbo people have to be revolutionary in the way we think. We must leave the old ideas behind, ideas that only re-enforce the notion that the African, particularly the Igbo man is incapable of original thinking. If you want Biafra, you can have Biafra. However, Biafra must first become a process of emancipation in our minds and hearts, and then evolve into a cultural, economic, and political revolution that is tangible, and coherent, and draws admiration from the international community, envy from our enemies, and respect for ourselves. 

 

Umu Igbo, power is everything, and power is what we seek. If we have power, we can have Biafra. But first, we must figure out a way to get this power. We must figure our a way to channel our anger and frustration over the years for being treated as second class citizens since the end of the civil way of 1967-1970. To become successful in our quest for real power, we must first empower ourselves. We can actually borrow from the sharia playbook and insist on having our communal democracy (Peerism), which is culturally inherent in our way of life, and insist that the Nigerian government extend the same courtesy to us that were accorded the Hausas in the north. If the federal government thinks that it is okay for Sharia to exist in the north without regard to the constitution, federal law and mandate, then it is only fitting that we do the same in Igbo land. If the Hausas feel that it is their right to institute Sharia in the north without interference by the federal government (who have proved ineffective in upholding the constitution and federal law), then I think that Igbo people should institute Peerism (Age grade democratic system of government) in the south and southeast without interference by Obasanjo and his cronies. We need communal democracy in the east.

 

It is a known fact that black America and the rest of the world are intrigued by our customs (which festival celebrations like Kwanzaa reflect). What we need to do as Igbos is reinvest in our customs or positive traditions to attract tourism and foreign investment in Igbo land. Political systems and economics are synthesized from religion and culture, and we should take note of that as we dialogue. There have been talks about Igbos seceding from Nigeria, and I submit to you that if we try to secede, it will result in civil war. I also submit to you that I do not think that nde Igbo have the stomach for war (our generation is pitiful, and have no back bone). Does any Igbo person think that the Hausas will let us secede when all the oil is in the south, which is the main national product of Nigeria? We obviously have not shared in the national wealth, since the oil in the south is piped up north. There are other ways to generate economic growth for our people. Believe me when I tell you that though the agenda of MASSOB and WIC are honorable, their strategies are flawed and do not offer real solutions. Harsh as that criticism may sound, all you have to do is look in the mirror. Do you like... what you see?

 

Learn from the Japanese who are economically sound, and culturally original in their thinking. They may have the lost World War II, however, they still command respect in the global communities. China may not like them, but they have power, real power.

 

Nde Igbo, Wake up and stop whining, complaining and bickering. Let's take control of our destiny. We must stop looking up to others to help us solve our problems. There are beautiful things about our culture that we should be able to use to uplift ourselves and attract foreign investment and tourism. There is room for dialogue, to brainstorm solutions that offer real security to nde Igbo. We have the goods, the brains, and economic muscle to find real solutions. However, we must be truly united as a people. Our community's interest should be paramount to personal ambitions. Put your education to real use. If your education is not used within the fulcrum of your community or culture, it has no meaning. The answers to our demise lie within us, within our culture. If we promote ourselves, Biafra will become a reality. Let's make ala Igbo a magnet for tourism and commerce, and a center of learning. In this context, only when you have real power, can secession become possible.

 

Yagazie,

 

Nchuaja (Rev.) Udee Kama Onyioha

High Chief Priest-Godianism

 

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My Dear Nchuaja, Udee K. Onyioha and Dr. R. Olukayode Jegede, President Families For Christ Ministries:

The SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF AFRICA (SADA) AFRICANIZATION SOCIETY, Inc. agrees with the two of you, but our present condition as Africans is only revealed to Brother Udee who sees this world as a world full of Gods and the only powerful one is the creator;-Odomankoma-(the Akan-Twi word for God as a creator).  The Akans have 99 names for God and different names for the Gods who are also creatures of the Almighty God (Okokuroko).  We must not just receive what the Europeans have brought us but what brother Udee is suggesting.  Udee's presentation is so penetrative in challenging that most of our current so called Christians have to be angry at him.  But wait a minute, what has actually happened during the last 2000 years.  Why is it that only the Middle East has religions that the whole world should subscribe?  Brother Udee may respond, but SADA agrees with his presentations and those who are benefiting from Christianity will oppose h! is and the Muslims may denounce him.  God of Africa bless Udee for his understanding our plight and may be one day Dr R. Olukayode may agree outside his religious interest as President.  Who says these religions will be the main religious institutions in the world in the year 3000.  The Catholic Church is on its way out of human society and don't ask me how, you should know better, and it must file a bankruptcy to even survive the suits awaiting it in USA.  Catholicism, the Church of Peter is on its way out, all the other denominations may have to unite to keep Christianity from crumbling like Islam.  

FORWARD EVER BACKWARD NEVER:

AFRICAS MUST UNITE like AMERICANS
AFRICA MUST UNITE like USA

Kofi Agyapong, SADA, Washington, DC

In a message dated 12/18/2002 9:41:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, onyioha@godianism.org writes:

Read Hebrew, Chapter 7. Then do a detailed  research study on the subject before replying.

"HEBREWS 7:1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, 2 to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated "king of righteousness," and then also king of Salem, meaning "king of peace," 3 without father, without mother, without genealogy [agenealogetos]1, having neither beginning of days nor end of life2, but made like [aphomoiomenos] the Son of God, remains a priest continually3.
"

Jesus was the Prince of Peace. Melchizedek was the King of Peace. Jesus was sent by God as a priest in the order of Melchizedek.

Since we are on the subject of Jesus and Mohammed, and the damage that stories about these two so-called messengers of God have done to the psyche of the African, leaving the African destitute and stupid, I have only one question. Any takers? Who wants to argue that the African is better off with these two religious heroes. Remember neither one hailed from Owerri, Kaduna, Congo, Accra, Liberia, or from my village of Nkporo (five miles from Abiriba). At least, I think that they were irrelevant in our culture before the Mansa Musa's of this world, or slavery came to pass. Am I wrong? Do you all really want to see the African rise back to the prominence of Yesteryears? Can we talk?  Anyone who thinks that Africa's problems stem from any other cause other that Islam and Christianity is in la la land. What do you think?

Yagazie,

Nchuaja (Rev.) Udee Kama Onyioha

----- Original Message -----
From: Attueyi
To: Udee Onyioha
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: TRIVIA FOR THE CHRISTIAN BROTHER, OR JUST BROTHERS.

I did not ask for a name---the verse that says Melchizedeck is greater than Christ

----Original Message-----


From: Udee Onyioha [mailto:onyioha@godianism.org]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 6:25 AM
To: Attueyi, Joseph C.
Subject: Re: TRIVIA FOR THE CHRISTIAN BROTHER, OR JUST BROTHERS.

Melchizedek.

Yagazie,

Nchuaja (Rev.) Udee Kama Onyioha


Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:03 AM
Subject: RE: TRIVIA FOR THE CHRISTIAN BROTHER, OR JUST BROTHERS.

Please give us the bible passage you are referencing.


Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: Udee Onyioha [mailto:onyioha@godianism.org]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:04 AM

Subject: TRIVIA FOR THE CHRISTIAN BROTHER, OR JUST BROTHERS.

ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, THERE IS ONE GREATER THAN CHRIST. AND I AM NOT REFERRING TO GOD. WHO AM I REFERRING TO?

Yagazie,

Nchuaja (Rev.) Udee Kama Onyioha

----- Original Message -----


From: Families For Christ Ministries
To: martin akindana
Cc: moderator afrik network matto ; Pastor Segun Omooba
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 11:10 AM
Subject: [AfriK Town Crier] THE SOLUTION TO ISLAMIC TERRORISM IN NIGERIA

Muslims have been terrorizing the poor and needy, as well as the innocent in Northern Nigeria for decades.  With the conspicuous failure of Islam to achieve its goal of world domination there has emerged, in recent years, an unleashing of Islamic terrorism all over the world.  No doubt Islam is in its last days and is self-destructing.  But lets face it, Islam is not going out without a big noise. This is why we are seeing escalation of terrorism by Muslims all over the world.  But there is good news!

Christmas time reminds us that God is love.  Let's be clear which God we are talking about.  Remember, there are millions of gods all over the world. The God we have in mind here is the creator of the universe, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the God of Abraham and Isaac, Moses and David, as well as the God of Daniel and Paul the Apostle. This is our Father God.  This is the God of love.  This is the giver of peace.  Christmas is the time to celebrate the incarnation, God sending His son who took the form of human flesh and who brought joy and peace to the world 2000 years ago.  Since then millions of people have been receiving this Jesus into their hearts, thereby experiencing His love, joy, and peace that nothing, nobody can take away, not even the threat of death or death itself.  

This Christmas we urge all believers in and outside Nigeria to prove to the world who and what we are, namely followers of Jesus Christ the Prince of Peace and the God of Love.  Therefore, let us pray for Muslims around the world.  Specifically we recommend the following prayer points:

*    That millions of Muslims in the Middle East, the Gulf, and all over the world will come to a saving knowledge of the one and only Savior of the world, Christ Jesus, and that they will become committed believers.
*    For every believer maimed or murdered by Muslims in Nigeria a thousand Muslims, including Muslim leaders and their families, will become Holy Spirit-filled, diligent disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ.
*    For every church destroyed in Nigeria, a hundred new churches will rise up filled with souls hungry for God and pastured by men and women who are disciplined and Holy Spirit-filled.

If you know a Muslim, send a card or a gift this Christmas, but remember to do so with prayers.  

For more information on how to help someone (that may be you yourself or members of your family) have the best Christmas ever, you may log on www.adifferentchristmas.com

For more information on how to pray prevailing prayers for Nigeria, we invite you to visit our website dedicated to praying for Nigeria.   www.nigeria2000plus.com

In closing, remember God is the God of love and holiness.  Filled with His Holy Spirit and His word, we will overcome every difficulty, conquer every enemy.  With God's spirit and God's word inside us nobody and nothing and not even Islam can prevail against the Church of God.  We declare by faith that Nigeria belongs to God: the people, the land, and all its wealth belong to our God and Jesus shall reign in Nigeria from the north to the south, from the east to the west.

Dr. R. Olukayode Jegede, President
Families For Christ Ministries

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STAN ODERA,

STOP! STOP IT, ALREADY. GEEZ!

I AM SORRY  THAT YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, AS WE CONTINUE TO SINK INTO THE ABYSS OF HOPELESSNESS.

Yagazie,

Nchuaja, Udee Kama Onyioha

--- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:59 AM

Subject: [IGBO_FORUM] Udee Onyioha on +Re: Blacks and White on Air France - example of hell

 

My Brother Udee Onyioha,

 

I have been trying to avoid responding to you ,especially on your various attack on Christendom. It seems the more i tried ,the more vocal you become. I will try this once to respond to you and i hope to make some impression on you ,but if i fail on making any impression ,i makes no apology .

 

The Bone of Contention here is AIR FRANCE treatment to  Nigerian bound and outbound passengers.

 

My brother i will tell us that it is nothing new and there is nothing bad about it.

If there is anything bad about it ,it is the Glaring extortional Landing fees that Nigeria Airport Authority collects from them, It is the madness of every passenger to carry excess luggage, it is the cheating nature of the said passengers that will love to carry 25 kg as hand carry on bag into the Aircraft.

 

What is wrong is that -We the passengers -Steal Pillows, Wine glasses ,Cutleries ,Blankets and every item that is not suppose to leave the Aircraft in the first place. What is wrong is that most of the passengers will like to finish one carton of Beer on board the aircraft ,Some of the trading types will reach out to touch some sensitive parts of air hostess and if you querry them ,they will tell you to mind your own business, that it is the same fare you paid that he paid, and that he is not accountable to you.

 

Have you witness some of the things we carry aboard aircraft from Nigeria ?without adequate packaging .Some are smelling like dead Rats and the owner never care to seal it up. So if the Ikwarikwata is spreading in the Aircraft they need to spay some Sheltox to kill them ,including the Oti that comes from the Mangala fish we are carrying .

If  not for the money the Airlines are raking from Nigeria ,it is not worthy of plying by any respected airline. After all why can't  Giant of Africa with mosquito legs, cannot afford a national carrier, when every small nation is Africa has many on her fleet.

Now i will try and give you some answers ,and i will write beside your own mail in black, i will write in green ,enjoy =

Mazi Odera with a difference

It is not what happens to you that determines how far you go in life, It  is what you do with what happens to you

----- Original Message -----

From: Asagwara, Ken (EDU-E&Y)

Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:43 PM

Subject: [IGBO_FORUM] Blacks and White on Air France

This info. should be of interest to those of us planning travels to Nigeria
through Air France. KC

ThisDay Sunday, October 3, 2004

Blacks and White on Air France

This letter to the editor is written by an American professor of international law, who as a Caucasian male asks whether the differential treatment he received on board a recent Air France flight from Lagos to Paris was in fact based on his color.

Recently I flew from Lagos to Paris on board an Air France flight. Like all flights from Africa to Europe, the flight was scheduled at an awful late hour, and was very packed. Every seat was filled. I rode in the economy section. I was the only Caucasian passenger sitting in the section. I will not say on which date my flight took place, as my experience on board this craft has caused me to since question if this is typical of what those from Nigeria always experience on such flights. 

At the outset let me say that I do not like to think of myself as a white male, OE for I hate labels, and for 12 years as a civil rights lawyer in America fought against stereotyping people based on skin color. But, the flight crew on board this Air France flight forced me to think of myself as "white". 

I was in Nigeria at the request of one of the country's governors, to help his state to select and send deserving Nigerian students to Europe to study in the fields of medicine, engineering and agriculture. 

Coming to Nigeria was for me a dream come true. I have previously been to Ghana, but had always wanted to travel to Nigeria, as I consider it the greatest of African countries. Throughout my two-week stay in Nigeria, I was treated with the utmost respect and kindness by every Nigerian person that I met, who I consider to be very warm and honest people. I honestly left Lagos that night with my heart divided-of course I wanted to return to Europe to be with my family, but I did not want to leave Nigeria to do so. And, that is what made my observations as to how these same Nigerian people were treated by the crew of Air France so much more humiliating. 

From the beginning of the flight to the end, I observed with my own seasoned eye the following things. First, the flight crew spoke to me, but only spoke at the Nigerians sitting around me; second, the flight crew was rude to the Nigerians during the entire flight, or worse, ignored the Nigerian passengers outright, and; third, if those in the flight crew did have to acknowledge a Nigerian passenger, they would reluctantly do so, but without even looking at the Nigerian in the eye. Many times I saw flight crew members walk past Nigerian passengers without stopping, or pausing to offer assistance or to answer their question. 

When those in the flight crew had no choice but to speak to a Nigerian, they did so only in short, direct, matter-of-fact quips, more as commands than as communication. Then they were off to the next person. 

Insect spray! Ladies and gentlemen, please remain seated while we spray the cabin for insects...OE Then as they did so, the flight crew literally smiled at the seated Nigerian passengers. I could not believe my ears and eyes. De-lousing an airplane!? What was the assumption here being made--that Nigerians are filthy sub-human creatures, who must be sprayed like dogs from the vermin they are carrying? I found this completely repulsive.

When meals were later "served" it is more accurate to say they were thrown at the Nigerians. No choices were given to those around me concerning which meal to take; instead, "Your choice is fish; here..." Take-it-or-leave-it. So, I tried an experiment. 

I started to talk to the flight crew. And what I saw confirmed my worst fears-I was being treated differently by the flight crew. They offered me more bread, more things to drink, and always treated me in a most-kind and humane way. But why me? Was it because I paid more money than did the Nigerian passengers about me? Was it because I was nicer and was more pleasant to the flight crew? Was it because the French government has better relations with the United States than it does Nigeria? We know this is not the case! So, what? 

Dr. Terry Boesch,  USA

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